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hotQ

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I found an interesting thread on bitcointalk scam board, about ChangeNow.io, from the readings it is best to stay clear of these guys. They are currently holding out 11 BTC to a client, and do not want to release his/her funds, despite the person submitting all documents etc after they demanded KYC. The irony is that it is an anonymous exchange demanding for KYC from it's clients, it's laughable. Full thread below:

What happened: Illegal exchanger from Russia(the activities of such services are prohibited in Russia) hold my funds and do all to delay the situation. They demand documents, selfie, videoverification. But I am not obliged to disclose information about myself to a group of persons who conduct illegal activities in its country. It's just dangerous.
Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1307188
Reference Link: https://changenow.io/
Amount Scammed: 100 BCH / 11 BTC / $70 000
Payment Method: BCH
Proof of Payment: Dear friends I don't want to publish my wallet address. However, fraudsters do not deny the problem(you can see this in next posts). But in any case, I can show my wallet to any moderator.
PM/Chat Logs: Again, fraudsters do not deny the problem. Of course I have a long long dialogue through email, but it's too big.

UPDATE 2018-07-15

They still have not returned my funds. I remind you I sent all the photos they needed 9 days ago. They say that they are conducting an investigation. They themselves say that they do not know how long it will take. In other words, they say:
"We took your funds, and we will not return it to you until we want."

But what kind of investigation can be conducted by these anonyms for more than 9 days? Blockchain shows that I own funds for 5 years. The presence of many coins on my wallets indicates that private keys were not stolen. What else can they investigate? There is no doubt that they are just trying to find a way to leave this funds to themselves. I'm sure they just wait until we all shut up and everyone will forget about it.


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UPDATE 2018-07-18

They still have not returned my funds. I remind you I sent all the photos they needed 12 days ago. They say that they are conducting an investigation... in the time when blockchain shows that I own funds for 5 years. The presence of many coins on my wallets indicates that private keys were not stolen.


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UPDATE OF THE POST  2018-07-29

More than two weeks ago I opened ChangeNOW.io and tried to exchange 100 BCH for 11 bitcoins.
Why did I come to this site with such a huge amount? I confused them with Changelly, which I once worked with. And this was only part of the total amount of exchange.
After I sent BCH, the exchange was suspended and I was asked for a image of the passport and an explanation of the origin of the funds. I wrote my indignation to them. But when a man with a Russian name Sergey answered me, I tensed. If this is a service from Russia, then why should it establish the identity of a person with such a large volume of coins? What purpose do they have in the time when the transaction itself could not cause any suspicion (other than volume)? This is not for them to be formally protected from regulators, since in Russia it is not regulated by anyone and they work illegally. I decided that it was just a formality. I took an image with someone's passport from google-images and sent them. And also I explained the origin of the funds, although there is nothing to explain, everything is already visible:

1. There is only one incoming transaction(a few months ago) and one outgoing transaction(to ChangeNow.io) on the wallet.
2. The origin of funds on this wallet is my another wallet. This wallet was created 5 years ago(before bitcoin hardfork) and it replenished only once(5 years ago).
3. The presence of many coins on my wallets indicates that private keys were not stolen.

But after that they asked to send selfie with a passport. There was no way out and I had to make a real selfie with a real passport.
They accused me that I deceived them and now they will conduct an investigation. That was 2 weeks ago. All the days during these weeks they said that they are investigating this situation and can not say about the completion time. The same thing was said to me when communicating by mail within 2 weeks. Do you understand cynicism? Absolutely anonymous people, without a company, addresses, telephone, working illegally, appropriated my funds and in fact declare that they will return it only when they themselves want it.

They said it until 2018-07-20. This is explained by the fact that on Thursday I told them that I found all the information about them: their names, phone numbers, office address. I said that the information about them will be published and then forwarded to the competent bodies of St. Petersburg, as they, having organized de facto anonymous exchange service of anonymous currencies (only I probably did not have the luck with my volume) brazenly violates the laws of the Russian Federation. After that they immediately wanted to communicate with me on video communication. And now they are blackmailing: "that's when you call us, then we will decide about your funds."

But I do not like this approach. Persons who conduct completely illegal entrepreneurial activities in Russia, trying to steal funds from those who feed them, have no right to demand anything to me. I will not please them. I do not worry about my funds, I'll return it in any case, it's just that I will not leave anything from their "business" and from their personal reputation.

Please understand me correctly. I do not gloat simply because they work illegally in Russia. It's just a convenient hook. But I would never used it if they did not try to steal my funds.
You, having at least six months from registering on the forum, think: what 2 weeks investigation can be carried out by a group of people doing their business illegally in the time when the blockchain shows that I own the funds for 5 years, and the presence of many coins on my wallets says that private keys were not stolen. What investigation? It's clear even for a fool, that this is a lie and an attempt to delay the time to the maximum in the hope that the person will fall behind and the topic will be forgotten.

I repeat, I have absolutely nothing against services that work in the shadow of the state. Not all states have perfect legislation. But if you work illegally and yet have no honor, trying to brazenly steal, then do not think that you will get away with it.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2018, 03:27:06 PM by hotQ »

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Re: "ChangeNow.io" Scam Excahnge Site? - beware and be very careful
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2018, 09:20:47 AM »
That is really shitty of them. Definitely going to watch out for them and other anonymous exchanges like these. They just ripped this guy of all his money; it doesn't matter if they are anonymous exchange or not. They have a duty, and that is why they are an online service website.

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Re: "ChangeNow.io" Scam Excahnge Site? - beware and be very careful
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2018, 05:58:42 PM »
The guy has loss his money. Do not trust site like this one. If the say no KYC needed, and then after they say KYC, you should see that they want to steal the money. Karma can catch them soon. Sorry for the loss.

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Re: "ChangeNow.io" Scam Excahnge Site? - beware and be very careful
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2018, 06:29:54 PM »
Very interesting story. But here I see only one problem - sending someone else's documents. This man acted like an idiot! As for the illegality of ChangeNow, here it is necessary to clarify. The place of registration of the exchange is Belize, which means that to the laws of Russia ChangeNow has nothing to do with. He says he confused ChangeNow with Changelly. How is this possible? Is he blind?  :o The presence of coins is not proof that they belong to this person, but I am worried by another - why he does not want to show his face to the exchange! This is important! I ask, would you risk 100 BCH, hiding your identity? I think this person is not completely honest with us, maybe these coins do not belong to him or he has problems with the law.

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Re: "ChangeNow.io" Scam Excahnge Site? - beware and be very careful
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2018, 04:26:38 PM »
But btw your title make change now like scam juat my opiniom i dont know the other
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Re: "ChangeNow.io" Scam Excahnge Site? - beware and be very careful
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2018, 12:26:58 PM »
I am surprised that the author, despite the absurdity of the message, did not update it. So, changenow returned the coins without the KYC. They say they completed the investigation and received legal approval. I did not expect another, because, as far as I can tell from my own experience, these guys work honestly, at least I didnít have such problems. It has already been written here that the user provided a fake ID for KYC (this is his decision, which I consider to be insane). Given this, user is also responsible for the occurrence of this problem, but I am glad that he returned his money. This story will be an example for those who do not read the rules before using the service, and try to deceive them by sending a fake.

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2018, 10:41:23 PM »
A reason more to repeat that on exchanges we have to deposit minimum amounts...

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Re: "ChangeNow.io" Scam Excahnge Site? - beware and be very careful
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2018, 01:30:23 PM »
As for my opinion, I completely trust changenow, since my experience cannot lie. Swapping of many coins for a long time did not bring me any problems. Do not pay attention to negative reviews. These people have a problem because of their stupidity.

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2018, 03:06:53 PM »
Used changenow, everything is clean, no problem. This guy said he sent them a false ID for KYC, maybe the problem is this? Did he think it would work. Many people create the problem themselves.

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2018, 04:38:09 PM »
I will tell you that sending a fake for KYC is idiocy. Who are you to blame someone for your stupidity? You yourself created the problem, and should be grateful to the exchange that they returned your money.

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    « Reply #10 on: November 13, 2018, 05:42:21 PM »
    I will tell you that sending a fake for KYC is idiocy. Who are you to blame someone for your stupidity? You yourself created the problem, and should be grateful to the exchange that they returned your money.

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    « Reply #11 on: November 17, 2018, 03:14:47 PM »
    Well, I'm not sure that this person has the right to blame changenow. First of all, it's sending a fake, of course. Wrong step, I think. I have my own opinion about this platform, and all I want to say is my satisfaction with this service. I had a problem when I sent them more BTC than was necessary, and these guys returned the difference to me.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 20, 2018, 12:43:45 PM »
    I have had a positive experience using changenow for several months. I did not come across a problem similar to that described by the author. Perhaps the actions of this person were the cause of his problem. He says he sent someone's passport from Google. This is stupid.

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    « Reply #13 on: December 11, 2018, 04:49:28 PM »
    I know that changenow never hid this incident, but we do not know anything about this man who accused them. He is wrong, and I do not understand how after such an act you can blame someone. He said that KYC is a tool for fraud, but the truth is that KYC is aimed at fighting fraudsters. Many exchanges use KYC, choosing certain transactions, and I have never heard any complaints from customers. I used changenow, and I will use it, since this is the easiest way to exchange coins, I mean the absence of registration etc.

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    « Reply #14 on: December 19, 2018, 09:53:37 PM »
    Well, I'm not sure that this person has the right to blame changenow. First of all, it's sending a fake, of course. Wrong step, I think. I have my own opinion about this platform, and all I want to say is my satisfaction with this service. I had a problem when I sent them more BTC than was necessary, and these guys returned the difference to me.

     

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