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Cryptocurrencies => Trading => Topic started by: Zen10 on June 04, 2019, 11:36:19 AM
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Every time BTC pumps or dumps in a short time, many people would cry about whales manipulating the price.
If you come to think of it, they are just traders who happen to have HUGE bags that they can affect the price everytime they make a move like shorting and buying back. There are also many traders who are doing this practice, the difference is that they do not have the bags to move the market like "whales" do.
So is it really manipulation?
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Yes it is. Just tecognize it as manipulation and make profit trading with it.
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Yes it is.
If it is, then do you call manipulators as simply traders with huge bags?
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I also think that no one can predict the price of bitcoin, for me it will also remain patient waiting with better price increases in the near future. Because I'm sure the price of bitcoin will also rise again
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Sorry but your comment is off-topic. Can we discuss what's in the OP?
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Yes it is.
If it is, then do you call manipulators as simply traders with huge bags?
at least their bags are big enough to move the price to one directiion.
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Price manipulation is often done by investors to make traders panic, so they can get big profits
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Price manipulation is often done by investors to make traders panic, so they can get big profits
That is what every investor does to make a big profit
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Price manipulation is indeed a trap for unwary traders, they will be trapped into a hole, and that is the goal of investors to make a profit
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The same happens with stocks and shares. The big fund companies and pension companies can buy or sell enough to move markets. Betting on market movements by buying options. Market manipulation. Without market movement there would be no profit to be made in trading hence no trading.
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The same happens with stocks and shares. The big fund companies and pension companies can buy or sell enough to move markets. Betting on market movements by buying options. Market manipulation. Without market movement there would be no profit to be made in trading hence no trading.
Indeed, many manipulations occur without movement in the market, so they make traders not interested in entering it, because there is no movement at all
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Is this related to pump and dump?
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Is this related to pump and dump?
no, but it can depend on pump and dump when viewed in terms of manipulation
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Price manipulation is often done by investors to make traders panic, so they can get big profits
Investors, traders, or team projects can do manipulation. So, it doesn't always come from investors. Who have big numbers of coins/tokens can manipulate the prices in the market. And those people what we call by whales. That's in my own view. [IMO]
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Price manipulation is often done by investors to make traders panic, so they can get big profits
That's right, I think also that price manipulation was made by investors so that they get a big profit and make an impression that the market moves and rotates does not stop at the place.
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Every time BTC pumps or dumps in a short time, many people would cry about whales manipulating the price.
If you come to think of it, they are just traders who happen to have HUGE bags that they can affect the price everytime they make a move like shorting and buying back. There are also many traders who are doing this practice, the difference is that they do not have the bags to move the market like "whales" do.
So is it really manipulation?
I tried to do daily trading with different orders in each crypto exchange and that proved to affect the number of orders which were then above my order.
those who have a lot of money can easily manipulate prices, like this
Crypto exchange 1: I have 5 orders by buying and selling at different prices.
Crypto exchange 2: I will do the same
Crypto exchange 3: make orders slightly higher than exchanges 1 and 2.
Do I need a lot of money..? No.
You only need to do a few orders above the price from the order list, so this situation can be called manipulation because you can influence some investors to order a little higher than the price of your order.